I’m
gonna do The Bad Thing You Aren’t Supposed To Do. Also this is a bunch
of poorly organized thoughts that can't be organized because the train
of thought is nonlinear.
There
is an asymmetry in the way that people talk about male and female
gender norms. I can see you typing, please let me make my point in full.
The general way people that think they’re tolerant see these norms is
you don’t have to
follow them, you know, it’s a free country, but people will think
you’re weird if you don’t, you know? You don’t have to, but you don’t
get to have any opinions on how people react to you. Ostracism isn’t
real, it’s just that everyone has independently decided they hate you,
and can you imagine the disaster it would be if you could force people
to be your friend? Humans are black boxes. There is no difference
between people shunning you for wearing the wrong clothes and people
shunning you for, uh, I’m trying to think of examples of heinous things
that can’t be cited as This Is Actually About Police Brutality Because
That’s In The News and coming up pretty much blank. You understand the
sentence I was trying to write even though, given the associations a
reader would reflexively make, it is not currently possible to write it.
There
is something of a contingent of feminists that see this and come to the
obvious conclusion because they have brains. That conclusion being:
This is coercive, it’s pointlessly cruel. The gnawing omnipresent
knowledge that you have the option to sell out to get that acceptance
you crave is acknowledged as a mental burden. It is recognized that
there are valid reasons (and
personal expression is treated as a valid reason) to not want to follow
a given norm, let alone reasons it may be impossible or much more
draining than average, e.g. disabilities.
This
sounds about right, to me anyway. I dislike standpoint epistemology and
am therefore a bad person, but it rings true to my experience, which
means nothing at all. Obviously there are differences in the specific
norms, enforcement mechanisms, and so forth. But based on testimony I
gather that the basic shape is the same.
However,
when the norm under debate involves men, the discourse is a bit
different. The rewards for conforming are rhetorically treated as some
kind of universal privilege. If it’s pointed out that not every man
conforms, well obviously it’s because men are lazy and it’s their
individual fault. Norms have no actual content, they merely exist as
effort-receptacles.* The only possible complaint you might have is
effort bad. Which is extra maddening when there are plenty of criticisms
of female gender norms, widely accepted as valid, that also boil down
to effort bad (e.g.
mandatory makeup). And that’s not to discredit them! Wanting a little
more time and mental energy for yourself is in fact a valid desire.
Every time I see a post that uses “cargo shorts” as shorthand for “lazy
manchild” I want to tear out my skull and throw it at someone. You’re
trying to stick it to The Men by insulting… loose, pocketed clothing?
Sure, I bet this won’t backfire at all and is 100% non-hypocritical
w.r.t. criticisms commonly levied at women’s clothing.
(guess
I’ll stick out my neck here and say yes, I do in fact primarily wear
The Trousers Of Sin, if that affects any of your moral calculus. wow
it’s almost like people don’t like being insulted over things that are
obviously completely harmless. i am very heat sensitive and need a place
to store things within reach. fuck you)
*This
is not always the case, obviously people talk about the consequences of
emotional repression and that sort of thing. It’s only when someone
points out that the speaker is conflating “cartoonishly masculine men” with “all men” that this really applies.
I
was going to write a short and hopefully pithy message to my friend
that went something like… look I don’t envy the shit that you no doubt
put up with, or have any illusion that you don’t have an impossible
aspirational beauty standard glaring at you from every magazine rack
with transparent, dripping contempt. What I envy is that your specific
aspirational beauty standard is at least not blatantly ugly.
And
that’s part of it, but… not really the entire story, because also the
idea that your advocates understand that there are a million different
reasons you might not actually define that as success? Like even in
explicitly left wing places you see this idea that there’s a Correct Way
to Be a Man, and that it’s Obvious, and that it's exactly like the right wing definition except who you're supposed to beat up is swapped.
An example that sticks in my mind was one time Vaush was talking about
an entitled attitude he saw in a lot of men, and it sounded legit awful
on its own merits. But then he went on to say these men tend to be “smelly
and poorly dressed” and I just - poor hygiene is on a whole different
level of bad as not following fashion, a thing which is not in fact on
any level of bad. And I don’t think Vaush is stupid, I’m sure if you
prodded him he would say “yeah,
clothing standards are gendered, I don’t think anyone will deny that,”
but he’s on record as a gender abolitionist, he explains the concept at
length in videos and has clearly given it a great deal of thought, and
then he goes ahead and mentions not adhering to an arbitrary gendered
standard with unconcealed disdain juxtaposed with not fucking taking baths.
(Incidentally, is anyone else put off by how a lot of “entitlement” discourse barely mentions “doesn’t take no for an answer” and jumps straight to “asked
for something too good for them in the first place”? And of course
every commentator claims the role of Unbiased Arbiter Of Individual
Worth, because why would you not put people down at every opportunity?
Like, “didn’t
take no for an answer” is enough to morally indict someone. You can
stop there, in fact it undermines your case if you don’t stop there. “I
don’t like your shirt” is morally nothing. It’s not even morally
neutral. Zero implies the possibility of positive or negative. Morality
segfaults if you pass it an article of clothing. It’s gibberish. )
The
implication in all these purportedly progressive spaces that what makes
a Correct Man is Obvious, and the idea that you might look at what’s
being held up as the ideal and recoil is literally alien to people. It’s
completely inscrutable that I do not want to be a “hunk”
because I do not, in fact, consider it a compliment to be compared to a
lump of material with no internal state. If you don’t want to be a
grunting American-football player that can’t form sentences more complex
than “me
smash” what is there? Well, there’s femboys, they’re minimally
tolerated, but you have to go all the way otherwise you’re just claiming
that as a get-out-of-football-free card. And when you get there there’s
superficial lip service but everyone hates you anyway, either because “just come out as trans already” or “yeah
I guess it bucks the trends but men have been allowed to get away with
too much, the rules need to get more restrictive for them not less,” or
my personal favorite, “idk
it’s suspicious a lot of alt-righters are like that.” Because
obviously, anyone who doesn’t see the obvious goodness of football man
can’t be right in the head and therefore maximally bad. The etymology of
the word “bad”
is left as an exercise for the reader. Or I guess you can be Lazy Gamer
Filth who is also automatically assumed to be extremely racist because
uhhhhh… well I’ve never understood that particular leap but extremely
clever people have assured me that a) it makes perfect sense and b) they
are extremely clever, so it must be true. Like I’ll fess up to being
Lazy Gamer Filth because “please leave me alone, the sun is trying to kill me” is an objectively reasonable request, fuck you
The
end of this post was originally a bunch of questionable gibberish about
"just say you're not a man then" and not understanding gender theory
enough to actually make any assertions confidently. I will probably
never be able to conceptualize gender as anything other than arbitrary
made up rules that order you to do obviously vile things, because that
is how I have experienced it and go fuck yourself.
There
is a... Thing that goes on in certain Woke Men's Forums that goes,
existing masculinity is bad, it's up to men to make a new one that's
better, and just... who is men? This strikes me as the sociological
equivalent of editing a list you're iterating over. And whenever this
topic comes up it's treated as just implicitly making sense and
requiring no further elaboration to the point that I'm wondering if it's
just sounds to these people. It's like that thing morlock-holmes is
always on about where people shout slogans to prove that they know the
slogans, and the idea that someone might interpret the slogans as
meaning what the words mean never crosses anyone's mind.
Like.
DO GENDERS HAVE FUCKING DEFINITIONS OR NOT.
There
are 37 different answers to this question and the proponents of each
consider their position to be the obviously correct one that needs no
explanation.
I'm trying to write about rhetoric
I have seen, which is positioned as Correct Woke Rhetoric, but is in
direct contradiction with other Correct Woke Rhetoric and I'm going
fucking insane here because someone can bring up that mentioning the
factual statement that the rhetoric is used has failed to account for Psionic Aether Theory and I therefore need to be pelted with rotten fruit.
I can't fucking understand and I can't fucking articulate my non-understanding because what if I misspeak and my understanding of what constitutes misspeaking comes from the non-understanding I'm trying to rectify
And
I'm writing all these disclaimers and damage control for a blog post
that nobody will read except maybe the one person I send it to. Because
obviously all non-understanding is trolling/sealioning. "Literally
everyone understands the rules except you, so just fucking understand
them" I'm sorry for being a fucking idiot, but I can't force myself to
not be a fucking idiot, I AM NOT PRETENDING TO NOT UNDERSTAND PLEASE
STOP REPEATING THE SAME SENTENCE AND REPHRASE IT. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND
THE MEANING OF THE SENTENCE. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BELIEVE WORDS. IT IS
ONLY POSSIBLE TO BELIEVE MEANING, WHICH IS COMMUNICATED THROUGH WORDS.
AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING SO TRY NEW WORDS.
WHY THE FUCK ARE HUMANS THIS WAY
WHY IS WHAT I AM SUPPOSED TO ASPIRE TO LOOK LIKE OBJECTIVELY DISGUSTING TO ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE A RAIL THROUGH ITS HEAD
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